Spanish law more or less says if you do not make it in Spain the patent is no good, so Browning lost. Ameba Ownd - . They started making a gun in 1914 based on the Browning 1903 and the modifications of the design by earlier guns like the Astra Victoria 1911 and called it the Ruby. I'm trying to identify it. '^ ' I' 111 u' 111 g' p 111' i n. 11) ij n M i I' i. i 11 y i p 11111.11 p i ^ i fgsP, [PJjl'I'I'I'PJ.i ' |I|. A forum community dedicated to handgun owners and enthusiasts. Very similar to the Astra Victoria from earlier years, While this gun is nothing more than an Ultra Plus it is marked Danton War Model. Work on a new design began in 1931 and culminated in 1932 with a Spanish patent issued on April 12th of that year. Largo/.38 ACP is identical to Mod. Beristain cancelled the contract even though he won. Model: "LLAMA" ESPECIAL Serial Number: 277547 Caliber Info: 32 ACP Condition: VERY GOOD Metal Condition: VERY GOOD Wood Condition: EXCELLENT Bore Condition: EXCELLENT Barrel Type: 3 3/4 Action: SEMI AUTO Finish: BLUE Sights: OPEN Item Location: RI See all listings by RUDIM6 Print this listing Model 82. XI.-This is a 9 mm. 320 7.65 mm. Caliber is marked on the front of the slide where is says Llama and can be seen in the larger photo. I have only seen five of them in the last 15 years. Thanks! 'IlllillililT^ililfllllliHlil, 7.65 mm. Jlllll;|!||'|!llii||.|,l||M[|in!Hltlltlllll, No. It is a Tauler model VI and is exactly what the Llama model VI looks like. No one seems to know anything. This Spanish Llama model IX-A is a single action, semi-automatic pistol that is chambered for the.45 ACP cartridge. It is marked .38 caliber rather than 9 mm. Several styles of grip pieces and markings have been noted. My wife has a Llama .380 she inherited from her step-father. I've had several and the quality is suspect, at best. To order a gun with a custom serial number, please have your FFL Firearms Dealer contact us at 1-800-821-5783 and ask for Jessica. I was identical to Mod. models of 1903, 1906, 1910, and 1922. During WWII a company named Geco, Gustav Genschow & Co, imported guns from Spain to be sold to Nazi party members and marked their guns with the Geco logo which is a large G with the eco inside it. There are two variations of this gun, the other one having a different placement of the grips screws. This model was produced until about 1954. Did not realize refreshing the site would do that. These were not produced for the American market and are not readily found in the USA. A Model X-1 has been noted, but details are unknown. IV. Llama 32 Serial Number Lookup The photograph on the left is a picture of the right side of the receiver just above the trigger. IV and is, therefore, the original Llama pistol, manufacture of which dates from 1932. Also complying with the law is the stamp at the bottom indicating that the firearm was manufactured in Spain. Little Tom Wiener Waffenfabrik Vienna, Austria No. Apparently derived from the 1900 Model Mannlicher. I got interested in the baby Llamas because they were pretty well made minature 1911s. The markings in the picture on the left are as follows,GABILONDO Y CIA. On some guns this proof may appear on the left rear of the slide, on the left of the frame or on the barrel in the ejection port. 37963, ' I tI M 111 m 111 nI y 11 I' I' I' I' I' I J'lM'li[inin^ni|ii, > . This is in 38 Super and is only the second I have seen. moscs 2 i -4. , s. t r.rir, IIMlllMlllllllllllllllltlllltlllllllltllllllllllllllllllllllllllMllllllllltlllllllllllilMllilllil J11111I' If If I ft 11 llllt tl ll I (|! Largo (Bergmann) caliber. Llama XI A - 9mm P - full size gun with 5" barrel . For a revolver, where reloading takes place by means of the turning of a cylinder, an over pressure load is used. For a better experience, please enable JavaScript in your browser before proceeding. No Made in Spain stamped on them. VII, but with the addition of a grip safety. Llama 380 Serial Number HistoryLlama Serial Number YearLlama 45 Serial Number LookupLlama Pistol Ser. 3 <1r~ijT-iI '7 I I ri I ,'lfTT'l U| .Hl .Tin irMWi n ft j 111 iTiTTln 1 r 11 Tl Mt 1111 f 11 ill t tl< iTf la 111 l*i>l I ill 1M11 Ii f Inl7i tl I ill iTTlnill III >i I iliiftillllirtaiBlln llllTll 11111 III I 'illilli, No. Does your slide say 'Especial' on it? Also, based on the fact there are no vents in the rib, I believe it's a IIIA, series 2, variation 3. Llama actually started manufacturing these handguns as the Model IX back in 1936, this Llama IX-A was manufactured in 1984. Largo (Bergmann) caliber. It may be a special variant of the Mod. Colt Officers size with a 7 shot capacity. It has been suggested that the name Modello IV may have been reserved for the Tauler pistol which is identical to it. Mod. 'Izarra' Pistola Automtica Bonifacio Echeverra Eibar, Spain No. For all practical purposes, we are looking at the handguns produced under the 'Llama' name, and not the earlier Gabilondo y Cia products. Well here is your chance. 326 7.65 mm. Second Variant Humpback The second variant has the serial number on the left arm of the slide, near the front. Feb 06, 2013 Pilot. I have now seen a second one made in 2001. X.-This pistol, in 7.65 mm. 226 Williams Ln. Mod. Is it a locked breech model? It looks like all but the 25-2 are sporting their original stocks. To this weapon was given the trade name Llama" which is the name for currently made Gabilondo pistols. On the right side of the frame, Union Switch & Signal inserted double spaces in "M 1911 A1" whereas Colt rolled it out all crammed together ("M1911A1") and Remington-Rand, Ithaca, and Singer inserted single spaces ("M 1911 A1"). The demand of used LLAMA 32ACP pistol's has not changed over the past 12 months. Auction: 14505864 LSB#: 170816OQ08 Title: , C&R 9mm Largo (.38 ACP) Make: Llama Gabilondo y Cia S.A. I I I I^.i I.I I I I^ I) I I I I tea* . This was far more than Gabilando could produce so he contracted with others to produce for him. You'll see the computer's serial number displayed beneath the text "SerialNumber". LLama 38 special Description: Nice Llama 38 special, very similar to the Smith and Wesson 29-2 44 magnum revolver's, this gun has a little holster ware but retains about 90% of it's dark polished bluing, has a 4' vented barrel with good rifling, smooth trigger pull, locks up nice, nice grips. This mark is what the law calls for except it would have been nice if the importer would have hid this stamp under the grips rather then stamping it on the side of the receiver. My wife has no sentimental attachment to it so we'd like to possibly sell or trade. 1 ; . ' You can narrow your search by manufacturer, handgun type, trigger type and caliber, and you can also filter results within a selectable range by overall length, barrel length or weight. Stoeger Llama S Serial Number Can Be This serial number can be used to search for the make, model and history of a gun, but the type of information the average person can get is limited.Heres the scoop on what info a guns serial number can dish out.Look for Identifying Marks As of 2002, imported firearms must also bear a serial number . I n 11 ' I J .J. VII. To identify the make and model of these guns, dig around the manufacturer . It is still in production. For example, with a gun serial number of 331-12345, just enter 331. Langenhan Zella-Mehlis, Germany No. It was a well made gun with fair tolerances, so parts were interchangeable within its own brand. lAtttl'WlfrllNO AMU SilCX FIUNGHN Ht JlHT MIING HN TC, Knife Throwing Techniques of the Ninja. and was also made in 9mm P. During WWII England purchased these in 9mm Pto be dropped by the SAS to partisans in Poland and other countries. It is solid, reliable, accurate and the weight handles the 9mm recoil like a dream. This handgun comes with one 6-round magazine. Beristain y Cia of Eibar, between the years of 1916 and 1920 received patents for improvements to the Browning 1910, patent No. Some time after the late 1980's. From my research, I think this is a German distributor, but I don't think it is Geco. Not complaining but I'm curious why this got moved since the my Llama is a 1911 design. The serial number is 563842 which I *think* puts production somewhere around 1970-ish. i i ' . 'l''',!' LLAMA Location: Philippines Same firm that was founded in 1904 and produced several inexpensive revolvers and pistols prior to 1931. This Micro Max was made in 1997 and was produced using one of the slides from the previous series and not putting the compound curve at the front. Largo (Bergmann) and .38 ACP calibers this appears to be the export version of Mod. This pistol is still made. If multiple models appear for your serial number simply match the date with the appropriate model, as certain vintage firearms can share serial numbers between different models. 'l!llltliMilillllinilim, No. Its odd but I suspect they used an in stockframe and slide that were sitting on shelves in an effort to save a few dollars. The Logo on the grips is BC not GB for Gregorio Bolumburu as some report it to be. Most likely there are many out there but this type of gun was never put in German records or marked with Nazi marks. Industry Announcements and Press Releases, Questions and Suggestions about M1911.ORG sites, Your Opinion about M1911.ORG and its sites, More than one of the above (questions pertaining to more than one brands), US Military Issue M1911 and M1911A1 Pistols, Commercial Colt Government Model, Ace, SM Ace, Super .38 and Commander pistols. The germans 'adopted' many commercial pistols to equip their military, Belgian, Polish, Italian etc., but I have never seen a commercial Llama. This is an importers stamp that is now required to be placed on firearms that have entered the U.S. After the late 1980's. Whether it is a X or XA it is a beautiful little piece and a heck of a lot of fun to shoot. The slide is marked "Llama Cal 45" on one side and "Gabilondo CIA VITORIA (Espana)" on the other. It has a double grip safety. 45 or, GABILONDO Y CIA. Browning Short caliber, heavier than Mod. i f t 11 t aTaf o iIt 1 *t t^TI tn I, No. It was an imitation of Colt Mod. All proofing of handguns in Spain still occurs in the city of Eibar at the Banco oficial de Pruebas(official proofhouse) and the same symbol is still applied to this very day. This recall applies only to Daisy Legacy semiautomatic .22 caliber rifles Models 2203 and 2213, all with the serial number beginning with the letters AC. Mod. All you have to do is type in the serial number for your gun, and the site will present you with its date of creationit's as simple as that. Leonhardt H. M. Gering and Co. Arnstadt, Germany No. Shortly after the production of this first model, a blowback style based upon the external shape of the Colt-Browning was introduced. The pistols these 4 companies, Armera Elgoibaressa y Cia, Echealasa y Vincinai y Cia, , Hijos de Angel Echeverria y Cia, produced were not of the Gabilondo quality but were accepted by the French government. Sorry for the delay in getting back to you. s| 111111 11 i i I ' . This is a little known model used by the Spanish Policein .380 if it had a model number it is unknown by anyone. Known as a Modelo Extra. start with a single letter, like "A", from the 1930s. Trades Accepted: We Buy, Sell, or Trade. Shipping Notes: On Star Pistols, the date code is usually under the left grip panel on the grip frame. The second sub-variant has a 4.25 inch barrel (108 mm) with the front sight set back about 5/16 inch (8 mm) from the muzzle. X, with the addition of a grip safety, which was added immediately following World War II. This gun is also a model V made in 9mm P. This gun was made in 1945 and is shown with different grips. We find a lot of Llamas from the 30's that have their proof marks removed and I feel like this was done in the refinishing. The frame was fitted with all of the Max I components. There are no Llama pistols designated as Models XII, XIII, and XIV as these designations have been reserved for and are used on the Llama revolvers. Here we can see that the magazine floorplate along with the bottomof the backstrap of the pistol has been stamped with 'MADE IN SPAIN'. Good luck getting the screws back on! Enter the serial number, without spaces or dashes, to search the database. 'F. Mini Max sub compact - .45 caliber 10 shot double stack magazine. This pistol was developed by Llama in 1986 and was adopted by the Spanish military in 1988. Four smaller companies contracted with Gabilondo to produce 5000 pistols a month each and along with the 10,000 he could produce, he was able to fulfill the 30,000 needed. 1 From the top navigation bar on our website Click Search by Serial # Select a manufacturer Enter your equipment's serial number and click SEARCH 2 From the participating manufacturer page Enter your equipment's serial number and click SEARCH Available warranty information will also be shown! Whatever you buy from them, using those banners, gives us a small commission, which helps us keep these sites alive. Cross section of typical Llama pistols. During this period they made a Max I LF with the old 1980's frame and a slide of the Max typeand called it the El Militar. My understanding is that at this time Gabilondo had 5 employees. The photograph on the left is a picture of the right side of the receiver just above the trigger. I am also interested in guns marked Tauler or Mugica. Not being especially interested in revolvers I have decided to add another page to cover the Llama revolvers, but like the semi autos I dont trust anything that is out there about them so I will have to collect them also to make sure I have the correct information. Does your Llama say MicroMax on it? 201524, Buluilliulillii;!' I have never seen any information on this pistol and it was quite a surprise. 1,000 produced, 4 digit serial: Mauser Banner Dated - produced 1936-1942 Unknown contract Caliber 9mm Parabellum - 4" barrel A few thousand produced, 1 to 5 digit serial with letter: Swedish Contract - produced 1938-1939 Military contract Caliber 7.65mm or 9mm Parabellum - 4.75" barrel 330 produced, 4 digit serial: Code 42 Dated - produced 1939 . 23969, r ' r ! ' liiliiiin:l'iilir :f II?! VII, but with the addition of a grip safety. Model VIII is chambered for the .38 Super. In 1931 it was decided to modernize their line by undertaking the manufacture of the external hammer, recoil-operated system originally designed by Browning and used by Colt and the Fabrique . The demand of new LLAMA 32ACP pistol's has risen 1 units over the past 12 months. Pistols collected after the Spanish Civil War were either scrapped or refinished and I suspect the date codes and proofs were ground off. On the plus side, every marking on a firearm will help to tell us its history and this importers mark is no different. I noticed one gun with Z code marking that used a frame with the rounded butt and a slide that had straight lines cut in it on top from front to back which differs from the normal. : :ri i ! (barrel has a barrel link like a 1911). L. Selbstlader' Fr. Locked Breech as you can see in the photo below, 161mm overall length, 94mm barrel and 8 round magazine. Even then the amount of time and resources required is a pretty big deal. The serial number is C23709. The winning bid was over $900. I lost a gunbroker auction on a similarly marked.32 or.380, a couple months ago, but can not find it in the advanced search so it might have been longer. This gun can be found with Especial on the right side of the slide as well as one with no marking on the right or only 9mm Automatic. This is the label on the box for this gun. III, but this has not been confirmed. Your search for Llama Serial Number will produce better results if you simplify your keywords and exclude words like: serial, key, number, code, activation, keygen, crack, etc. The photograph on the right is of the butt or heel of the pistol with the magazine inserted. $ 399.00 For sale is a Llama Especial semi-automatic pistol in .380 ACP. I ;ur-po: rwp*.T5p. The Spanish government set up a proof house in Eibar starting in 1923.
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