Anyone who might remember me can email me I would love to hear from you all. This is my first time seeing this website, Maybe Ill share my story where it all started. Choose from Montana's largest selection of fishing and lodging packages. Our HS transcripts do not exist. The rules that we had to follow so as not to lose a point if a student broke one. Ill just say this. My brother had been sent to Casa by the Sea 2001-2003 so I knew what was happening right away. He started indoctrinating us during this time where we all felt literally lost in the woods to his version of how we should view ourselves and the way we had been living. @sirroderickciff345 Blessings to you all. buncha rednecks wed call family fathers. I hope GOD has mercy on there soul. They caught up in our pathetic attempt and put us in intervention, basically a little cabin with lavender walls where they put you on time out. I met someone at physical therapy one day and I over heard him say I hate myself I asked him why he said it and he said he was sent to a horrible program where they tell you and make you believe that you hate yourself. I was one of the guys that learned real quick what a joke this place was,you had kids in the program trying to be super cops for whatever reason. I was thinking in my dumb little head that Id be somewhere like Zoey101 and my mom was giving me this great opportunity to go away for school. Is your name nick? Cleveland National Forest encompasses 460,000 acres (720 sq mi (1,900 km 2)), mostly of chaparral, with a few riparian areas. I got trench foot which screwed me for life. As the town of Lewistown grew, the creek, especially sections south of town began to degrade through water diversions for irrigation and power as well as some channelization to straighten sections to reclaim land and mitigate the effects of annual spring flooding. So happy that place was shut down. I am proud of that and still remember my times there. I hate it here, its like a Jail Im scared, I want my mother The counselor lady quickly looks at me and loudly exclaims its not a jail, its a boarding school. Clearview Girls Academy, Heron Montana. Wow ok, I felt that was a little strong and forcefully unneeded information. I recall being kicked out of a seminar and sent to the hobbit with a guy named Mike. This ranch is defined by its creeks and water features, boasting over 3 miles of improved, well-managed spring creeks with ponds and sloughs. Just wanted to share get back to me. And second, you really should look up the people you are defending, and weigh positive praises of the wwasps facilities against the evidence against them: I.e deaths, multiple civil and criminal complaints, govt mandated closures etc. We had the worst reputation which i somewhat enjoyed. One of the worst times, I was quietly sitting on my bunk during hygiene time painting with toothpaste and pen ink (did what I could with what I had). I can go on about countless abuses, countless neglect, countless trauma. place was ran by a couple fat ass twins. He was from the East Coast somewhere like North Carolina. They moved us to Thomas Creek by the old 18+ girls facility and me and another kid John escaped. I knew Joah at Sprimg Creek. Nestled around the 330-acre Jack Nicklaus Signature Golf Course in the area's best rural reserve area. He would have been in a completely different place and what happened to him maybe never would have. Kids were beat as punishment, chased down when they ran and forced to sleep outside on the ground no matter the weather, homeschooled for the sole reason that the teachers didnt think they deserved to even talk to other kids seeing as even during the classes at the home if any of the boys were caught talking the had to get on the ground and do push-ups until the class was over and if they fell or stopped they were given chores which usually consisted of cleaning the vehicles of the teachers, taking care of the home-owners animals or even making a dinner that they then had to sit out on. I remember u from the swing dance pep rally I think. Really hated Colby and his Colby-quences. I truly feel that the abuse and neglect allegations were kids writing their mommies trying to get them to bring theme home. I am looking for anyone who was at SCL in 2005. There she is. The rules there never changed, and the overall mentality of staff was neglectful and oblivious to the emotional conflicts of individual students at SCLA. I got there at 16 and learned very fast i was going to ride out at level 1 until I turned 18 and just walk down the road. Some parents came during a tour and looked at us in special needs, it happened a couple times while I was in there. I think they took my shoes for a month.i remember they would wake us up in the middle of the night and make us go sit on the basketball court for however long with barley any clothes. Punishments were abnormal and out of place. I was in Quest family, Quest family veteran here. Hi, I was in Serenity 2001-2003 as well. Anyway thankful for your post Brann id enjoy a conversation with you anytime, My name is Chris and I attended Spring Creek Lodge for 6 months in 2003 all I can say is the horror stories are spot on the neglect was real the psychological and physical abuse was real and The Hobbit which only people that have gone to the school will understand what Im talking about pretty much destroyed any self-worth that I had when I requested my exit plan I was given a ride to the nearest homeless shelter and the clothes on my back in the middle of winter I am so glad the school is shut down and I have the utmost hatred for both the school the staff and my parents who still to this day stand behind what they did I hope to God anybody that is stuck in a program like this run run run run it is the only hope and when they let loose the dogs make sure they tear your face off so that you have the physical proof of what they do I know for a fact that use dogs at Spring Creek Lodge to track down students who have ran I only know this because I was put on junior staff privilege and sent on a Manhunt for a lower class student who had ran this school actually had measures and plan taught to their staff in the case that somebody ran or in the case that somebody tried to hurt themselves simply because it happened so frequently and the staff made sure to downplay anything that was going on at the school that would be construed as detrimental to the well-being of a minor the two men at the head of this ship should be held for their crimes and being given the the chair if you ask me which would be fitting because all we would have to do is tell him that its worksheet sit on your stool and stare at the wall only for him there would be no release after 24 hours of sitting on the stool this may sound like a rant or exaggeration but all I can say is I have not construed the truth in any way if you want any more details feel free to contact me I will speak freely about everything that went on at that school if thats what you want to call it, My name is Chris and I attended the school in 2003 I currently live in Phoenix Arizona and when I read your story about the desert I thought maybe you would still be around here if you are I would totally be down to talk to you Im going through a little bit myself now that I am in my 30s and the flashback of this period of my life are starting to dominate my current psyche I think maybe if I was able to connect with some other people that understood what I went through I might be able to talk of the flashback if you would be okay talking with me please by all means give me a call my phone number is 602-596-3046, Looks like this isnt a very active place to post anymore, but I just wanted to state that I think I have everyone beat in a few ways. and yes im aware they were shut down. Best memories were from meeting the fellow inmates and learning what we could. It was my first or second week there. Eric Rios!! My bad. Poor Miss Keely, I will never forget her. There was a kid there who swallowed bleach, too, I think. Josh Lambert accused of murdering both of his Grandfathers was in both Paradise Cove and Spring Creek Lodge for years. Oh you did..great glad all of us underage minors could help you out with that at 3 am in the rain.our pleasure, Jessica !! I had good morals. I am wondering if anyone knew my brother, Kareem Rahman. Cliff fucking hated me for that. Nicole Scribner, 406-827-6922. Im sorry, but anyone who leaves their kid in the care of a man named Narvin needs a brain transplant. His wife was hot though. Nelson's Spring Creek is a premier fly fishing destination in Montana and is located on our ranch 10 miles south of the town of Livingston, Montana in Paradise Valley, just 40 minutes from Yellowstone National Park. And thats at a bare minimum, giving him the probably-unwarranted benefit of the doubt and assuming he never actually abused anyone himself. Why? Property information provided by MRMLS when last listed in 2021. I started my period all alone and was laughed at by other girls. My name is travis hull. That place haunts me to this day. that is the full truth and whole truth about my 2 escape attempts within my 2 months I was there. Few places on earth can match the picturesque beauty of the DePuy ranch with the Absaroka Mountains towering above a valley filled with deer, swans, cranes and bubbling trout waters. REDFIN and all REDFIN variants, TITLE FORWARD, WALK SCORE, and the R logos, are trademarks of Redfin Corporation, registered or pending in the USPTO. After choosing out of PC3- I was pulled four months later (age 15-almost 16). Id like to connect and talk about your experience more if you are up to it? Energy suck, emotional suck, attention suck! Memoir: Thompson Falls Montana I remember you and remember your love for classic muscle cars. I came Here looking for a Place that does the Seminars so I can send my Daughter through them, and all I see are Comments from Unaccountable People. Unbelievable! There was an aluminum boat somebody had chained up but no paddles so after busting the padlock with a boulder (took about 45 minutes but I finally did it) I went back in the forest and found some branches to use as paddles. I hoped she did not get in a strange car. haha. Anyone know a James Lothian or a Ryan Brown. I am writing this from a prison cell and it is being submitted on my behalf by another party who told me about this site. please email me at ms.stephanielhudson@yahoo.com I will tell you everything i rememeber. I was there 06-07 when I was transferred to Jamaica. Back in the days of Spring Creek Community there were less than 100 kids and maybe 6 or 7 cabins at the site of the school with one central lodge. Let me start off by saying this place was shit!! It has taken a long time to search for this site but Im glad I did. They were upper level and took advantage of their good standing to make a run for it. Then I thought about the wild animals and the below 30 temps at night. yours might be my favorite comment on here lol i totally relate, Nick I think I remember you i.was.in honor around the same time do remember the fight with dignity. I remembered that kiss. Transfered to spring creek and was kicked out in june of 99. Get the latest updates and new property listings from Fay Ranches even that lil Damon, half the reason i took my exit right on my bday. in a week and half hes your therapist. She was defeated and tired. So on a trip up to the hobbit one time i ran into a girls hobbit and kissed this cute little blond girl. The only thing that I can think of that made it better on you that was that were there as a adult and they knew you could legally leave on your own. Im relieved to know this place was shut down. Im just a MOM and a believer, one who loves her children more than life itself and who is even more inspired after hearing your stories to do everything in her power to show her teen daughter love, grace, empathy, forgiveness, and direction, so she can go out into the world with hope, happiness, and unlimited opportunity. Absolutely NO WAY he didnt know what went on there; Im surprised he admitted that in his book (hes actually proud of it), after reading about all the law suits, suicides, murder, rape, assault, and so on that Spring Creek has been accused of over the years. I had arrived at Brightway! She is 15 years old. Our help was the traumait was child abuse. Chaffin I hit you in the face and you well more then deserved every ounce of that hit I got off. These people are acting like a bunch of victims and 3 year old kids. I dont remember alot of peoples names from then but I do remember jay and Eugene and gabe. I was there from like Nov 2001 to July 2002 in Innocence. I came to this site after reading that book, which is very positive about the experience. I soon learned that I could not call my parents. With many years of stewardship and over a decade of enhancement work, McCoy Spring Creek Ranch features some of the countrys finest spring creek fishing for wild trophy rainbows, browns and brook trout. and helped me put my pack together. I made friends with girls who felt the same way. any spring creek lodge people have any luck getting their transcripts?? I almost didnt get away because I had a hard time leaving my friend josh there waiting to get picked up. But when I quickly realized that wasnt going to work I played the game so to speak so I could get what I wanted, which was go home. Bunch of liars here. Mike the counselor got punched in the face while I was there. We were all put in one big suburban/bus and drove through the snow up to Montana. But I try and find the good things. Montana Land for Sale Under $50,000. Rates from $30 a night plus tax. I was here in 2002-03. thus the difficulty. There was an older main teacher there who kinda looked like Santa Claushi name was Ken, I think. Not another sheep in one of your workshops. There are two guys there, large stature and have radios in there hands. I remember an older Mexican girl named Claudia, ilianna, holly poe, marybeth those are some of the names from innocence that stick.out, I was in innocence in 99. He agreed, and I got out by the start of 97. Mikes suggestions. I was there 2005-2007 and this is a freaking trip reading all of this. Destiny family 99 01, I just wanted to reach out to the guys I was at the Lodge with. Anybody remember that kid Torrey? I spent the majority of my time in the intervention room. I stole a car twice, escaped, robbed a liquor with a stolen car and brought tobacco back to feed the masses. Need transcript if anyone could point me in right direction. Dan Peart Mad respect always One by one they were participating in the program due to fear of their parents threats of leaving them there. Im sure your one of the few. I was good friends with Jenna. You did a good job describing what went on. Feel free to reach out if you would like, my email is scott_wayze@yahoo.com, I was in integrity family all I know is that place saved my life . Many allegations of abuse, as well as Social Services complaints and lawsuits have been leveled at Chaffin Pullan and his brother Cameron Pullan. I want to know where she is and that she is ok. maggie.bidwell@gmail.com, I am trying to help my boyfriend piece together the story of his time at Spring Creek Lodge. You maam need to do two things: first you need to look up the difference between your and youre and allowed vs. aloud while youre at it (yes I just called you an idiot). They fuckng made me live in the tpee in the winter for like 2 weeks. Spent a lot of my time in intervention. No worksheet, just a wooden cubicle to waste away in while a junior staff crunches on Cheetos and tells you to not turn around in your seat. I was there September 06 to summe of 07 and was pulled. . There is no experience more thrilling than catching big, wild fish in a solitary setting. To those of you who bled and cried with us through gravel pits and focus seminars (lifeboat process ) I love you and if we unite against these bastards in a mature and orderly fashion, we can give them the coups de grace that they need. I saw stuff tbey did to him there. I remember worksheets. Which was nothing because you did the same shit everyday. I cant believe after all we have been through we now have to deal with this Overall spring creek sucked but it wasnt a bad abusive place when I was there like everyone else has said atleast not in my experience lmao. We walked heal toe and couldnt look up out of line or we would loose points which ultimately made you a prisoner longer. I hated him with a black passion for being such an asshole. The Dillon airport has a 6,500 foot runway that accommodates private airplanes, making private travel to and from the ranch simple and convenient. Theyd even use former Tranquility Bay students to put on the phone where we were made to talk other parents into agreeing to transfer their kids thereinto a far worse program than they were already in. I was just going through a phase in life at that period in time. I just cant imagine putting my child in an environment like that. Hey you all, this is all amazing to read, I went to a program in TF (not SCL) for 1.5 years. I saw both of them beat kids up and both of them gave me the creeps. God damn fuck that place so fucking much. The Excel family was actually a rebranding of Aspire (I think that was the name). I spent twenty seven and a half months there. We went through another long blur of trekking through the mountains. He was my bunk mate when I first went to courage upstairs in Grizzly. We went on a work trip to some town kind of near by and we ran from there to a greyhound and had a girlfriend by us tickets to vegas. This is utterly ridiculous nonsensical logic. In fact when my stepdad,mom,and brother went to theres in Miami. I repressed memories about my transport and time at SCL for years. Please reply if you were there around that time. When were you in there? I remember 18 year old activities going to the local grocery and Every one of us buying a fat steak and watching a movie in the trailer. We were lucky to have cool ,and chill family fathers that would let us do whatever, as long as we were not to loud and no one found out, Hey Travis this is Mathew Patterson from respect I was there in 1999 to 2000 and went home at Christmas. You could speak to anyone when you got there unless you were a level 2. Roger Lichfield is apparently going to be running one of his Daddys new schools soon. I remember one time near the end of my program i got dropped from level 3 allstar to level 1. I was in unity family in 99 and 2000. Eternity 1998!! It truly breaks my heart that these programs have had that kind of power, to drive children into such sorrow that they see no way out. Or was it respect. How is he? I feel like the description of half military school half cult is accurate. Lot of names I cant remember, but can see their faces. The Little Belt Cattle Company Starting a Cattle Ranch by Combining Three Properties. -Myles wisdomfamily1998, Myles, youre awesome you have no idea how much that would mean to Gabe. Diana, I didnt get to call my parents for 13 months. Mike was my therapist for over 2 years. Arrived in SCL in 1998 and took my exit plan at 18 in 2000. With over 1.5 miles of fishable riffles, runs, and pools, the spring creek is a classic trout stream offering great dry fly, nymphing and even streamer water. Hey bro Im juinor staff Im going to chase after you if you run. I remember the mormon staff yesRandy and his brother (?) I dont understand it. i hope i contributed to the worst family reputationhaha. Chugged that whole bottle of Scope. Yeah thank god we made it out that shit hole. I hope he hires a lawyer soon. Innocent. She is heading toward Highway 200. Johnkharrigal@gmail.com. The surrounding mountain ranges and plains offer great hunting opportunities for healthy herds of elk, antelope, Whitetail and Mule deer. I wished I would have run sooner. Anyway, Im doing good. It was a two day drive to I didnt know where. Lawsuits Mount Against Spring Creek Lodge But nobody seemed to raise an eyebrow or voice concern that locking young teens in a barred cell in a shack for days, and weeks at a time. http://wwaspsurvivors.com/youth-foundation-success-academy-youth-foundation-inc/. Yet he, allegedly a licensed therapist and thus a mandated reporter, failed to report said abuse, making him not only a garbage human being, but also guilty of breaking the mandated reporting law and an abettor of the abuse himself. They no longer did tbe gravel pit or trail of lights.and tbey toned down the seminars. If you talked in line it was a T.O.S. I watched a lot of people come and go my 27 months there. I will be looking into this further and hope the best for Brandy. Listing provided by TMLS. My parents then sent me to a southern baptist program in Kentucky for my junior year. Showers sucked as well. I was telling him how Im never gonna give up on getting out of there and he helped me come up with a plan. Situated on the Laramie Plains in south central Wyoming, the Spring Creek Ranch controls 3,190+/- acres of productive Wyoming prairie. For the things that were done to me and then sent me to Jamaica for defending myself. You would go sleep on a piece of plywood with a staff member in front of the door. Plan for your Montana fishing trip. Did I not have enough respect? Just as I am leaving Heron, I see an older lady fast walking to catch up to a 14/15 year old girl, of Mexican decent. I have so many stories from what went on there but not enough time or space here lol. At the end of the day I was always in the negative and never got past level one. . I wonder what qualifies you to say a place to bodyslammed or fucked with children wasnt abusive? Walter how did you find all this info out i didnt even know this and i went there haha. I remember Eugene, I think we called him little 2Pac. The selection consisted mainly of Goosebumps and other preteen literature. Flip Flops and made it over 10 miles. Chaffin Pullan, Mickey (Michele) Manning, Jade Robinson, Jason Finlinson the whole crew are at it again in Utah. One by one, we all watched new kids come in. Chelsey what time were you at Spring Creek I was in Serenity also. I hope someone..anyone remembers me. looking back the place cracks me up. They just didnt know how to communicate with me and I didnt know how to communicate with them. I felt like I abandoned you manstill haunted by that shit. 14 hours ago It was completely unexpected, I didnt get to say goodbye, and I was permitted to return home like I wanted. I have night mares still as well fuck I am 30 years old now and still cant get past my time spent there. I came out worse then when I went in. His mom works 2 jobs, goes to college full time and cares for her two boys D and J. I definitely dont want to recommend a boys camp if this is the type of treatment he will get!